Comments on: Choosing Your Server: Web Servers http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/ Welcome To The Planet's Weblog! Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:33:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Erik Rodriguez http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-7082 Erik Rodriguez Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:31:58 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-7082 I'd go with RAID1 as well. If you really need the storage space, attach a NAS, SAN, or iSCSI device. Local storage is dead these days. I’d go with RAID1 as well. If you really need the storage space, attach a NAS, SAN, or iSCSI device. Local storage is dead these days.

]]> By: Escolha seu servidor | CFGIGOLÔ http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-7080 Escolha seu servidor | CFGIGOLÔ Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:51:18 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-7080 [...] básico de como configurar seu(s) servidor(es): Choosing Your Server: Web Servers. Vale a pena para aqueles que estão pensando em sair de uma hospedagem compartilhada e partir para [...] [...] básico de como configurar seu(s) servidor(es): Choosing Your Server: Web Servers. Vale a pena para aqueles que estão pensando em sair de uma hospedagem compartilhada e partir para [...]

]]> By: creativeon Hosting http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-6170 creativeon Hosting Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:27:47 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-6170 About the question asked above. "please a quick question, what RAID (1 or 5) do you recommend to use with cPanel servers? I thinking use HD 250GB SATAII." With the price structure of planet, and benefits of RAID-1 over RAID-5 (especially for SATA-II) i will not go for RAID-5. Here is my comparision. Price: (Both are same) for a 500GB of RAID volume, compare 2drive Raid-1 with 3 drive Raid-5 in both cases price is almost same when you go with TP. (consider a 500GB raid volume: cost of RAID-1 and RAID-5 controllers are equal, and you can go for 2 x 500 GB drives instead of 3 x 250 drives for almost same price) Data Reliance: (Both are same) A 2drive Raid-1 will retain data even if 1 drives, while Raid-5 will do lose data if 2 drives fail. Speed: (Raid-1 is better) Raid-5 volume will slow in read and writes considering parity overheads. Drive Failure: (Raid-1 is better) Raid-5 will perform horrible if one drive goes down, it can take even days to build up the lost drive if big volume. Where as in case of Raid-1 there will be NO performance impact if 1 drives is down, and buildup is also very very fast. My two cents :) About the question asked above.
“please a quick question, what RAID (1 or 5) do you recommend to use with cPanel servers? I thinking use HD 250GB SATAII.”

With the price structure of planet, and benefits of RAID-1 over RAID-5 (especially for SATA-II) i will not go for RAID-5. Here is my comparision.

Price: (Both are same)
for a 500GB of RAID volume, compare 2drive Raid-1 with 3 drive Raid-5 in both cases price is almost same when you go with TP. (consider a 500GB raid volume: cost of RAID-1 and RAID-5 controllers are equal, and you can go for 2 x 500 GB drives instead of 3 x 250 drives for almost same price)

Data Reliance: (Both are same)
A 2drive Raid-1 will retain data even if 1 drives, while Raid-5 will do lose data if 2 drives fail.

Speed: (Raid-1 is better)
Raid-5 volume will slow in read and writes considering parity overheads.

Drive Failure: (Raid-1 is better)
Raid-5 will perform horrible if one drive goes down, it can take even days to build up the lost drive if big volume. Where as in case of Raid-1 there will be NO performance impact if 1 drives is down, and buildup is also very very fast.

My two cents :)

]]> By: Kevin Landreth, Technology http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-6164 Kevin Landreth, Technology Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:28:43 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-6164 In all honesty it depends on a few factors. How database intensive is your application? Is your web application CPU intensive? Looking at your site, it seems to be fairly light weight from database activity as well as in media. In your case, since it isn't a Web 2.0 style site (heavy interactivity), but more of an online brochure (mild search features, etc), a single machine would probably suit all your needs. With a dedicated machine it gives you a little room (adding videos, etc) to grow your traffic while not sharing any resources (other than aggregate bandwidth) with others. Moving to a Virtual environment would be an exercise in futility because you'll just end up migrating to a real server in the end as you grow your site and business. Hope that helps! In all honesty it depends on a few factors. How database intensive is your application? Is your web application CPU intensive?

Looking at your site, it seems to be fairly light weight from database activity as well as in media. In your case, since it isn’t a Web 2.0 style site (heavy interactivity), but more of an online brochure (mild search features, etc), a single machine would probably suit all your needs. With a dedicated machine it gives you a little room (adding videos, etc) to grow your traffic while not sharing any resources (other than aggregate bandwidth) with others.

Moving to a Virtual environment would be an exercise in futility because you’ll just end up migrating to a real server in the end as you grow your site and business.

Hope that helps!

]]> By: Mills http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-6163 Mills Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:02:06 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-6163 Kevin, We've experienced more down time with Powweb over the last 6 months and need to explore new web hosting providers. I'm trying to educate myself on what type of web hosting (viritual hosting, dedicated servers, etc) will help us support our website traffic growth. For background, we'll need enough horsepower to present our web pages, database activity from our admin web interface, and we plan to add video, more pictures, etc. I would appreciate your recommendation on the type of hosting solution we should consider for our next step. Thanks in advance, Mills Kevin,
We’ve experienced more down time with Powweb over the last 6 months and need to explore new web hosting providers. I’m trying to educate myself on what type of web hosting (viritual hosting, dedicated servers, etc) will help us support our website traffic growth. For background, we’ll need enough horsepower to present our web pages, database activity from our admin web interface, and we plan to add video, more pictures, etc. I would appreciate your recommendation on the type of hosting solution we should consider for our next step.
Thanks in advance,
Mills

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]]> By: Kevin Landreth, Technology http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-6120 Kevin Landreth, Technology Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:41:05 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-6120 Do you have any other existing cPanel servers that you can profile from? Using sysstat (sar,iostat,etc) you can see if you are a heavy disk hitter. If you aren't, then RAID1 would be perfect. The advantage you gain from RAID5 over RAID1 is not throughput speed, but spindle speed (aka seek times and IO/s). If you aren't or don't expect to ever be using the disks too much after the initial FS cache, then don't shell out for RAID5. It might be worth your sanity if you have a few extra ms of latency for the reduced complexity of raid5. Even if you are only quoted a marginal differences in price, not adding in the extra risk of RAID5 could mean easier recovery. Though, if you hit the disk a lot, then dive in and get RAID5 as it is really worth the risk. Do you have any other existing cPanel servers that you can profile from? Using sysstat (sar,iostat,etc) you can see if you are a heavy disk hitter. If you aren’t, then RAID1 would be perfect. The advantage you gain from RAID5 over RAID1 is not throughput speed, but spindle speed (aka seek times and IO/s). If you aren’t or don’t expect to ever be using the disks too much after the initial FS cache, then don’t shell out for RAID5.

It might be worth your sanity if you have a few extra ms of latency for the reduced complexity of raid5. Even if you are only quoted a marginal differences in price, not adding in the extra risk of RAID5 could mean easier recovery. Though, if you hit the disk a lot, then dive in and get RAID5 as it is really worth the risk.

]]> By: Minotauro http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Minotauro Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:15:00 +0000 http://blog.theplanet.com/2008/01/04/choosing-your-server-web-servers/#comment-6119 Hello Kevin, please a quick question, what RAID (1 or 5) do you recommend to use with cPanel servers? I thinking use HD 250GB SATAII. Hello Kevin, please a quick question, what RAID (1 or 5) do you recommend to use with cPanel servers? I thinking use HD 250GB SATAII.

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